August 3, 2018, 7:50 pm CDT
JoAnne Epps (center), executive vice president and provost of Temple University and former dean of Temple Law School in Philadelphia, makes a point during the ABA panel discussion “Long-Term Careers for Women in Law: What’s Pushing Women Out and What Can We Do to Keep Them in the Profession,” on Friday during the ABA Annual Meeting in Chicago./Photo © Kathy Anderson.
Women in law already face unique challenges, but for those practicing more than 20 years, the likelihood of continued longevity becomes even more stark.
That issue was highlighted during the ABA panel discussion “Long-Term Careers for Women in Law: What’s Pushing Women Out and What Can We Do to Keep Them in the Profession,” on Friday during the ABA Annual Meeting in Chicago.
Preliminary results from a survey of 1,300 respondents from the nation’s 350 largest firms, conducted in partnership with ALM Intelligence, underscored the disparate challenges, stereotypes and burdens women lawyers faced compared to their male colleagues, even at the senior level. For example:
- 81 percent of women say they were mistaken for a lower-level employee, but this didn’t happen to men.
- 60 percent of women said they’d left firms because of caretaking commitments, compared to 46 percent of men.
- 54 percent of women said they were responsible for arranging child care, as opposed to 1 percent of men.
- 39 percent of women said the task of cooking meals fell on their shoulders, compared to 11 percent of men.
- 34 percent of women say they leave work for children’s needs, versus 5 percent of men.
“Too many great minds are leaving the profession,” said JoAnne Epps, executive vice president and provost of Temple University, and former dean of Temple Law School in Philadelphia. “Everyone needs to care about that—not just women, not just men. I really believe that what we bring is valuable, and our loss is significant. If people recognize it’s a crisis, it’s a step in the process to fix this.”
Dismal longevity statistics for senior women lawyers prompted a groundbreaking focus on the issue by the ABA under the leadership of President Hilarie Bass. Her initiative, “Achieving Long-Term Careers for Women in Law” included focus groups and research to determine best practices to promote success for senior women attorneys.
“We don’t say ‘fix the women,’ we say let’s fix the workplace so these talented women have a good basis for staying in the legal profession,” said Stephanie Scharf, co-chair of the presidential initiative’s advisory council and a partner at Scharf Banks Marmor.
Joyce Sterling, senior researcher for the presidential initiative and emeritus professor of legal ethics and the legal profession at the University of Denver Sturm College of Law, said, “The set of social constraints had a much larger impact on women than men.”
But there was one common denominator: Men and women both had comparable overall satisfaction with the practice of law, a statistic researchers say underscores that women don’t want to leave—they feel pushed out
“Just having the data is critical,” said Roberta Liebenberg, co-chair of the initiative’s advisory council and senior partner at Fine, Kaplan and Black in Philadelphia. “We really hope to switch mindsets so law firm leaders start understanding the importance of retaining senior women lawyers. Because if senior women lawyers keep leaving the profession, we are never going to get over 20 percent equity partners because we won’t have the bodies to do it.”
Lauren Stiller Rikleen, a member of the ABA Journal Board of Editors, expressed frustration that numerous studies over the years have produced supposed solutions to the problem of gender inequity in firms, but the problem remains of how to truly move the needle.
Scharf, who also chairs the ABA Commission on Women in the Profession, she shares the frustration. “It’s a series of small steps, like crawling to walking to running.
“I truly believe we’re in the midst of a change,” she said. “The more we’re talking about it and trying to get solutions, even if they’re not perfect, change is coming.”
The final report will be released in September.
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